Crossfit Games 1k Erg test

[fearlesselite]

Crossfit Games are tomorrow.

They have a 1k erg test. Should be interesting to see what some of the athletes put down.

[lt.wolf]

People still do cross fit ?

[fearlesselite]

they threw up some monster times

[fearlesselite]

Can anyone on the US National Team front Squat 425? Matt Fraser is unreal. 5'7, pulled a 2:55 for a 1k.

[lt.wolf]

It’s not what they train for.

While Matt’s erg score might score him an “invite “ for development he would fail in a sport of leverage. Get the man a booster seat.... wink

[sandor]

Many of these guys are circa 90 kg - this helps on the erg
126 men verified 3:08 (slowest Crossfit Games time) or lower on C2’s site for this season (since May)
122 men sub-3:00 last year

2:53 is the LWT men’s record

On the women’s side though, you have a couple that would have set a new record if they weighed in

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You can rig for stature, but the strongest don’t necessarily move the boat the fastest.

I was secretly hoping for more...

[rowing]

Some monster scores indeed, in an event these athletes do not train for at all. This furthers my suspicion that most professional athletes would demolish most of today's "pro/elite" rowers, at least on the erg, and with time, many of them on the water as well.

I hope there are continued ways to see this

[sandor]

Some monster scores indeed, in an event these athletes do not train for at all. This furthers my suspicion that most professional athletes would demolish most of today's "pro/elite" rowers, at least on the erg, and with time, many of them on the water as well.

I hope there are continued ways to see this

Definitely - when you can make $$ off it, there is more competition & higher output from all involved,

Fraser is worth what, 2,3 million dollars? Trains 4,5,6 hours a day?

[Remomex]

Some monster scores indeed, in an event these athletes do not train for at all. This furthers my suspicion that most professional athletes would demolish most of today's "pro/elite" rowers, at least on the erg, and with time, many of them on the water as well.

I hope there are continued ways to see this

lol. Ask Jimmy St Louis how that went.

[lt.wolf]

You can “rig” around 5-8 but you still have to teach them to stick the blade in properly .


It’s all about having the time to pursue it and putting in time to develop technically.

Jimmy could have had a great upside if he started younger, family and life took him a different direction.

I am pretty sure CrossFit took a hit during the pandemic.

[fearlesselite]

Erging is a measure of fitness. This was a fun way to measure crossfitters fitness vs rowers. This doesn’t mean they’re be better rowers.

The US has always had big ergs. It doesn’t matter really if other athletes are more “fit” than our national team. ThTs never been the problem. Their success or lack of has never been due to fitness.

[Rowcoach]

Long ago I got told a 2k time will be 97% of your 1k pace
2k Split Watts 1k
5:47 1:26.8 536 2:48.3
5:48 1:27.0 532 2:48.8
5:49 1:27.3 527 2:49.3
5:50 1:27.5 522 2:49.8
5:51 1:27.8 518 2:50.2
5:52 1:28.0 514 2:50.7
5:53 1:28.3 509 2:51.2
5:54 1:28.5 505 2:51.7
5:55 1:28.8 501 2:52.2
5:56 1:29.0 496 2:52.7
5:57 1:29.3 492 2:53.1
5:58 1:29.5 488 2:53.6
5:59 1:29.8 484 2:54.1
6:00 1:30.0 480 2:54.6
6:01 1:30.3 476 2:55.1
6:02 1:30.5 472 2:55.6
6:03 1:30.8 468 2:56.1
6:04 1:31.0 464 2:56.5
6:05 1:31.3 461 2:57.0
6:06 1:31.5 457 2:57.5
6:07 1:31.8 453 2:58.0
6:08 1:32.0 449 2:58.5
6:09 1:32.3 446 2:59.0
6:10 1:32.5 442 2:59.5
6:11 1:32.8 439 2:59.9
6:12 1:33.0 435 3:00.4

[fullmetal]

CrossFit movements put a premium on explosive fast-twitch movement, and so does a 1km erg piece. I'm sure their fitness is good, but I don't think this is an indicator that they could hang with elite or pre-elite rowers for 2km. I bet the muscle fiber composition ratios will be statistically and significantly different...

[sandor]

CrossFit movements put a premium on explosive fast-twitch movement, and so does a 1km erg piece. I'm sure their fitness is good, but I don't think this is an indicator that they could hang with elite or pre-elite rowers for 2km. I bet the muscle fiber composition ratios will be statistically and significantly different...

I think this would probably play out like you say. There has been past examples of C2 records broken by top people @ the Games and interviews displaying their intention to break the world 1k, 2k records in the future as well - haven't seen it happen yet.

Many @ the CrossFit Games seem to come from an anaerobic background - powerlifting, Oly lifting - CrossFit becomes the upper echelon of their aerobic training.


A circa 3 minute event is one thing, but the aerobic development to go for circa 6 minutes is a physiologically different beast. Sort of like Bond switching to cycling - massive potential & with a dramatic show of dedication, a shift in body composition, & sport specific training, he does well.

That is when i think it isn't their potential *ability* that comes into question, but their motivation & desire to adapt their training to do it.


Last winter on the erg, I watched the Brute Showdowns - i found the women's series more entertaining, but both show how much more athletic a CrossFit-type trained person can be vs a more traditional lifter.

Brute Showdown - Weightlifter vs Powerlifter vs Bodybuilder vs CrossFit Athlete
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3h749G6eY (women)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn0Av0ZTvxE (men)

[sandor]

Long ago I got told a 2k time will be 97% of your 1k pace
2k Split Watts 1k
5:47 1:26.8 536 2:48.3
5:48 1:27.0 532 2:48.8
5:49 1:27.3 527 2:49.3
5:50 1:27.5 522 2:49.8
5:51 1:27.8 518 2:50.2
5:52 1:28.0 514 2:50.7
5:53 1:28.3 509 2:51.2
5:54 1:28.5 505 2:51.7
5:55 1:28.8 501 2:52.2
5:56 1:29.0 496 2:52.7
5:57 1:29.3 492 2:53.1
5:58 1:29.5 488 2:53.6
5:59 1:29.8 484 2:54.1
6:00 1:30.0 480 2:54.6
6:01 1:30.3 476 2:55.1
6:02 1:30.5 472 2:55.6
6:03 1:30.8 468 2:56.1
6:04 1:31.0 464 2:56.5
6:05 1:31.3 461 2:57.0
6:06 1:31.5 457 2:57.5
6:07 1:31.8 453 2:58.0
6:08 1:32.0 449 2:58.5
6:09 1:32.3 446 2:59.0
6:10 1:32.5 442 2:59.5
6:11 1:32.8 439 2:59.9
6:12 1:33.0 435 3:00.4

Ostensibly, this would be a prognosticator created off of athletes whose training is based around the 2k event, so applying it to someone who is training with a different focus may have utterly different pace ratios.

Like saying a marathoner's 10k pace is XX% of their marathon pace.
Probably wouldn't hold true if you apply it to an 800 or 1500m runner.