2019 Junior Worlds Budget

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2019 Junior Worlds Budget

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I am hearing there was a big issue this year , maybe others can shed some light.

Concerns that the trip went way over budget due to travel back and forth from the course and the fine accommodations at the Hilton. Possibly several hundred thousand dollars.

Parents were sent bills afterwards to make up the difference
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The nearest Hilton to the course isn't that far, it seems. Did USRA get fleeced by some coach bus company...? Seems the LOC should have helped vet the vendors...

(NB: I know nothing of the situation.)
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I heard rumblings that the LOC was not pleased that the US Team stayed in a different hotel than many of the other teams. I would think, therefore, that USR was left to figure out the transportation issue without much help from the LOC, but this last bit is just me surmising. I would be shocked if i was asked, after the fact, to come up with additional money to cover the costs. This is not spring break with the boys down to the Florida panhandle (not that any of us rowers know what that's like). USR is supposedly a professional organization that handles team trips all the time! Sounds like someone blew the currency conversions.
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Contributing or paying in full for the cost of JWC or U23 is pretty standard for a lot of rowing countries. Although it is normally budgeted and charged ahead of time.
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Is this why USRowing no longer has a CEO?
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AFAIK that's specualation/correlation...
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More likely he was so embarrassed by the new Junior Lightweight Protocol that he had to run and hide his face from the world.
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To be fair I don’t think he set the lightweight protocol.

There was either the lightweight protocol or no lightweights at all on the junior level.
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There was a good-sized jr lightweight task force set up to look at options, and I suppose this was what the task force recommended.

https://usrowing.org/news/2018/2/26/18235_18235.aspx
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fullmetal wrote:There was a good-sized jr lightweight task force set up to look at options, and I suppose this was what the task force recommended.

https://usrowing.org/news/2018/2/26/18235_18235.aspx
That group looks like a bunch of the folks responsible for lightweight rowing as it currently stands. Like getting a bunch of wolves together to decide how to protect the sheep.

First, I would have gone largely outside the sport to other sports and doctors who actually specialise in treating eating disorders and the like.

Second, that committee is too large to do anything constructive.

Finally, the biggest step USRowing could make toward healthy lightweight competition is eliminate the second chance weigh in. When travelling teams face serious financial repercussions of gaming the sport at the margins they will quickly change their behaviour.

But I see we are way off topic....
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crewu wrote:
fullmetal wrote:There was a good-sized jr lightweight task force set up to look at options, and I suppose this was what the task force recommended.

https://usrowing.org/news/2018/2/26/18235_18235.aspx
That group looks like a bunch of the folks responsible for lightweight rowing as it currently stands. Like getting a bunch of wolves together to decide how to protect the sheep.

First, I would have gone largely outside the sport to other sports and doctors who actually specialise in treating eating disorders and the like.

Second, that committee is too large to do anything constructive.

Finally, the biggest step USRowing could make toward healthy lightweight competition is eliminate the second chance weigh in. When travelling teams face serious financial repercussions of gaming the sport at the margins they will quickly change their behaviour.

But I see we are way off topic....
But at least there is now 3rd party oversight of these kids (their pediatrician).
Like Wolf said in the other thread, there could be benefit to having all juniors submit medical documents every year, just like the Senior athletes.

Hopefully this acts as a stop-gap measure to protect kids & appease the whining adults & will be replaced with simple age groupings for junior rowers like the rest of the world.
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crewu wrote:
fullmetal wrote:There was a good-sized jr lightweight task force set up to look at options, and I suppose this was what the task force recommended.

https://usrowing.org/news/2018/2/26/18235_18235.aspx
That group looks like a bunch of the folks responsible for lightweight rowing as it currently stands. Like getting a bunch of wolves together to decide how to protect the sheep.

First, I would have gone largely outside the sport to other sports and doctors who actually specialise in treating eating disorders and the like.

Second, that committee is too large to do anything constructive.

Finally, the biggest step USRowing could make toward healthy lightweight competition is eliminate the second chance weigh in. When travelling teams face serious financial repercussions of gaming the sport at the margins they will quickly change their behaviour.

But I see we are way off topic....
There are at least three people on that committee list that I would ban from the sport and deport to an unfriendly nation.
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rowing wrote:
crewu wrote:
fullmetal wrote:There was a good-sized jr lightweight task force set up to look at options, and I suppose this was what the task force recommended.

https://usrowing.org/news/2018/2/26/18235_18235.aspx
That group looks like a bunch of the folks responsible for lightweight rowing as it currently stands. Like getting a bunch of wolves together to decide how to protect the sheep.

First, I would have gone largely outside the sport to other sports and doctors who actually specialise in treating eating disorders and the like.

Second, that committee is too large to do anything constructive.

Finally, the biggest step USRowing could make toward healthy lightweight competition is eliminate the second chance weigh in. When travelling teams face serious financial repercussions of gaming the sport at the margins they will quickly change their behaviour.

But I see we are way off topic....
There are at least three people on that committee list that I would ban from the sport and deport to an unfriendly nation.
Just to clarify a bit, the task force from last February was a very wide-ranging group which had input at the initial stage of the process but was not involved in the final stage of coming up with the protocols. The committee which came up with the final protocols had a much more medical professional composition with very few of the individuals in the original task force establishing the protocols themselves.
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Thank the almighty powers for that. Those three are walking black holes. The sooner they are flung back to their crappy sections of the universe, the better!
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Keep it simple, follow the rest of the world.
This will keep kids safe & provide more than enough competition.

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